1 Hitter Quitter .22?
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Permalink Reply by Travis B on -
Of course a .45 does more balistic damage and in an everyday protection senario id pick a 45 over a 22lr in a heart beat. But thats not the point I was making I was trying to say that the size of the whole the damage it causes doesnt mean shit when facing the undead. You can put 10 rounds of 45 auto into a zombie and do little except make big holes and slow him down. Where as you get a head shot and he is dead instantly a 22 to the head and your just as dead....look at it this way if you had to go across the country would you rather spend the extra gas on a car with a v8 or spend less and get a 4 cyl? Your going the same route distance and speed but you get it done with less. Same with 22lr vs a bigger caliber...your looking to put a hole through the zombies brain you dont need to blow the head clean off and create a huge noise and a shit ton of blood splatter when you could jus make 1 quick clean entry would with minimal blood splatter and noise....Of course the 22lr doesnt have great balistics but with zeds balistics dnt mean much considering balistics testing was created to measure damage done to HUMAN targets...My point is this if your shot in the head with just about any caliber within 50 yards chances are your going to die I know there are always exeptions ive heard of people being shot in the head with 22lr n survivng and ive also heard of people being shot in the head with a .223 and survivng. To put it simply if you put a 45 to sum1s head and pull the trigger they r dead. If you put a 22lr to sum1s head and pull the trigger they r dead...you dnt necessarilly need a huge caliber to get the job done.
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Permalink Reply by PRIME_Ω_PREDATOR on -
You can put 10 rounds of 45 auto into a zombie and do little except make big holes and slow him down.
I bet it knocks em over or blows a knee cap off, dislocates an elbow all of which makes it harder for them to catch or grab you. what if you only get 10 body shots with a .22lr?
look at it this way if you had to go across the country would you rather spend the extra gas on a car with a v8 or spend less and get a 4 cyl? Your going the same route distance and speed but you get it done with less.
I'll spend the extra money on gas and take the V-8 if it's a life or death situation. At least with the v-8 I'll know it can get out of its own way and seeing as most v-8s are bigger it can take more punishment.
You're less likely to die from a shot at 50 yards from a .22 lr then most other rounds.
You can have your .22lr but don't try to tell me it's going to do better then other calibers. The .22lr is a small game SHTF rifle at best. If its all you've got then it's all you've got. If its all you know I sugest to learn more.
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Permalink Reply by Travis B on
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lets not forget that the 22 caliber is responsible for more deaths than any other caliber in the world. I never said the 22 was stronger than the bigger cals all im saying is it still has a use in the Z apoc....Of course as I said a 45 will do more tissue damage and if you hit the body u may hit a knee cap and slow them down but why the hell would you even be aiming at anything on a zombie besides its head...There are many stronger calibers out there but a 22lr is still an effective round against zombies....Like I said before you can carry 5 times as m uch ammo and take up half the space...If your 50 yards or closer you dont need a big m4 or AR when you could just use a quiet low recoiling 22lr Its not like a 22lr is my only gun I have a glock 21 sf (45 auto) a ruger SR9C (9mm) a Smith & wesson m&p 15 (5.56) an M&P 15-22 (22lr) a mossberg 590A1 (12 gauge) and a ruger Gp100 (.357 mag) so 22lr isnt my first weapons choice but when z day hits u better believe its gna be in my loadout...
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Permalink Reply by PRIME_Ω_PREDATOR on
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I won't need 5 times as much ammo with a .223 and .45.
Like I said, its a good small game rifle.
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Permalink Reply by Travis B on
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You have the wrong mentality in my opinion. in a zpoc its 1 shot 1 kill regardless of caliber so y not carry more rounds? I see what your saying I mean honestly when you compare a 22 do any other round its frankly pathetic 22s were made for small game they were never intended to be used a defensive or offensive round. The number 1 reason a 22lr will be in my loadout is the fact that the ammo is small and easy to carry...When z day hits you cant go to walmart and re-stock ur ammo supplies whether u make reloads or buy factory ammo at some point ur going to run out off ammo and with a 22lr that point where u run out of ammo will be much further down the road. So when you run out of ur 500 rounds of 45 or 223 i will still have atleast 500 rounds left of 22lr. a 22 is a must considering ammo is cheap small and still effective. I know you know ur guns so u tell me this have you ever been to a gun store that didnt stock 22lr? Ive never seen 1. the round is so common they will be found at any gun shop, walmart or any other sporting goods store....hell there r even grocerie stores and gas stations that sell 22lr ammo here. There are obviously better defensive choices than a 22 but like I said if you plan on surviving long a 22 is needed sumwhere in ur loadout.
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Permalink Reply by PRIME_Ω_PREDATOR on
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In my opinion most people can't do one shot one kill. I know they can't, especially under stressful situations. The .22lr is a pathetic if you hit anything but a small critter in the body. I'm not saying don't have one but I am saying the average person is better off not wasting space and bringing along a bigger caliber rifle. I have .22lr rifles and they are not my go to rifle.
When Zday Hits people will be coming to me to restock. I won't be going to Wally World. Don't assume you might be the only person around who stocks up or reloads ammo. I've been reloading many of my 45 years. Plus I'll soon be stocking my own shelves for sale. I took about a 5 year break but started back up 10 years ago. .22lr had better be common if someone is going to count on it as a go to rifle. I won't be.
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Permalink Reply by PRIME_Ω_PREDATOR on
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What is the MOA of a .22lr at 450yards?
If drop is 6" at 100 yards it's going to be about 20x (10')that at 450 yards.
That doesn't take in to account humidity and wind on the light slug. You don't get the same problem with the .223 because of the velocity/propulsion behind it.
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Permalink Reply by Travis B on
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why the hell would you shoot anything past 100 yards anyway? your just attracting unwanted attention..and there are videos on youtube all day long about people hitting and destroying targets over 300 yards with a 40 grain cci 22lr.
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Permalink Reply by Travis B on
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Yup my Smithy M&P 15-22 is all polymer wieghing in at 5.5 pounds....its like your carrying nothing lol. 22lr hold there own with there bigger cousins in a z apoc
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Permalink Reply by PRIME_Ω_PREDATOR on
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Okay this was impessinve. If you listen very hard you can here the click of the round hitting steel on a 2foot x 2 foot target from a very specialized rifle. The only target those rounds would tear up is paper. No everyday joe schmoe with their 10-22 will be able to do that. and why draw in zeds anyway?
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Permalink Reply by Travis B on
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Exactly there isnt much of a point in shooting anything past 100 yards regardless of caliber and there r vids of people doin plenty of damage over 300 yard with a 22 lr
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Permalink Reply by PRIME_Ω_PREDATOR on
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Gents all I can say is put 22 on yer foreheads in permanent marker so we know why!
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