Of course, everyone thinks Z films to not have anything taken away, but there are certain things that cause a film to get away from the true essence of the zombie.

One thing I think should be taken out is the 'Play-doh Effect' in which Zombies can easily tear a victim limb from limb and rip them open like a paper bag.

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how about not having a zombie that doesn't eat meat....flesh...like one crappy zombie movie out there...and they wonder y it went straight to video...zombies eat flesh...plain and simple...lets thank Hollywood once again for messing up another zombie flick...
What I am sick "to death" of in ANY horror movie is the girl-in-the-shower scene (I can almost hear all the guys disagreeing with me) and all the other T & A scenes. If nudity or sex significantly contributes to forwarding the plot, then OK, but that's not usually the case. If somebody wants to watch that kinda stuff, there are probably 147,000 porn sites they can Google.

Another overdone shot is the girl running from whatever it is that's chasing her, let's say a zombie, and then tripping and falling. There are other, more creative ways of adding tension to a movie.
First off, there are alot more porn sites than 147, 000. Seriously. If you dare, google the word shower. I know not all of those returns will be porn, but I bet more are than aren't. But as far as your other sentiment goes, as a guy, I totally agree it is overdone, but I would not advocate dropping it entirely. One of the main aspects of horror movies is their primal nature. It doesn't get much more primal than sex. On that note, (and I am straight,) I think there should be more guy nudity scenes. Again, I am straight, but, I am also vehemently anti-sexist, and I think its bullshit that it is as one-sided as it is. Although, stats DO show that most horror fans are white males ages 13-20s. Obviously *looks around site* it isn't a rule, just a statistic.
No, as a guy I agree. There is a time and a place for everything. When I rent a Z flick, I want carnage, not a sex scene. And the woman as the victim is a bit overplayed. I know women who'd go into a slaughtering frenzy to protect their loved ones. Zombies as brain eaters I think is lame. Unless they're tool users they'd never get at the grey goodies. There wouldn't be anything super about any zombie. If you get down to brass tacks a reanimated corpse would fall apart in a matter of a couple of weeks. Faster if you were in a warm/hot climate.
Something else that I've always wondered about, even going back to the old Ray Harryhausen animations of battling skeletons, or when one of the skeleton warriors in Army of Darkness pauses and says, "Let's get the hell out of here!" is how do skeletons keep from falling apart? How do they move if they have no muscle, and how do they see if they have no eyes.....and how do they talk without a tongue?

At first I thought they didn't fall apart because they're connected by tough cartilage, but when they get whacked with a club, sword or other weapon, they usually fall to pieces like a house of cards.

Something else odd is if a zombie has rotted to the point where it doesn't have any stomach or intestines, then how can it absorb whatever substance is in brains that it thinks it needs? They no longer digest or go to the bathroom, etc.
Something else odd is if a zombie has rotted to the point where it doesn't have any stomach or intestines, then how can it absorb whatever substance is in brains that it thinks it needs? They no longer digest or go to the bathroom, etc.

A zombie that still eats flesh even when it has no stomach is just proof that they are powered by pure animal instinct. The logic parts of the brain aren't working, telling it that it's full and should stop eating. If it did, then they probably wouldn't be eating human flesh because, if they can reason they are full, they can probably reason enough not to eat another human being.
zombies dont eat for nurishment, its just an instinct., unless its 28 days later..but those wernt really zombies
Well, you can't really try to find too much logic in any of the Evil Dead/AOD movies. I think the skeletons are supposed to be held together by "evil." not really sure. Still, its one of my favorites.
Yea for a skeleton to be animated, it would have to be plain old magic. Otherwise there would be an obvious "adhesive" that functioned true, like tough sinew or some kind of film that coated everything like a membrane. It would still need a lot of explanation though...and as for zombies in general, Ive come to accept and even rationalize fast zombies. Like the whole decomposition therory. I even think super zombies are cool at ground zero, when first infected, making for dramatic scenes and facilitating a massive infectious outbreak. As far as differentiating between "infected" and zombies, it doesn't matter, anything that abberantly tries to consume my flesh when it normally wouldn't is a zombie to me. A rabies-crazed dog (very real) is a zombie if you ask me.
There are two things which I think should be removed from zombie movies more than any other.

The first is the word "zombie." George Romero hates it, which is why the word is almost never used (especially in his early films). "Zombie" just sounds ridiculous, and I almost laugh every time I hear it used in movies. I know it's something so small, it's just a word, but in my mind, it really does take away from the scares of the living dead flick.

The other thing which should be removed from zombie movies are cheap scares. And yeah, I'm talking about Diary of the Dead. I'm pretty sure I'm going to get a lot of crap for saying this, but the "jump scenes" in that film are some of the dumbest, most easily called scares I've ever seen.

EXAMPLE: The scene when the group is driving in the RV, and we see the smoking corpse of the police man walking towards the vehicle. The camera shows the creature walking stiffly towards the driver's side window, then suddenly cuts out. When the picture returns, the ghoul is at the window, and everyone is screaming. At that point I took the DVD out of the player and returned the film to the store where I'd bought it.
Sonic i comletly argree with you the word zombie should defintly not be mentioned in most flicks the word just seems to corny , calling them ghouls or crawlers are much more cool and original.
Well there are plenty of other nicknames, like stenches, ghouls, f*cking corpses, meat sacks, and you can even go the route of differentiating between undead and infected, but you reach a conflict with a point made in the twin discussion "There's Something Missing" which is that people want to see real life folks that actually respond (or are even prepared) to the outbreak. If this were the case, the term zombie is by far so widely accepted that someone would inevitably use the word, and it would probably be widely circulated. I'm sorry that the father of zombies didn't get to actually name them, and the word "zombie" does have a less than serious ring to it, but for practical application it is impossible to shake off.

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