Make Up and Effects
Ok, so I have been doing a little bit of playing around with make up and visual effects for about a month or so, just trying things out. What I am asking is: Does anyone know of a good paint that I can use for airbrushing bodies? I can get an air brush kit quite easily and cheaply, I just need to know what type of paints I can use other than model paint (Which I doubt would was off). Would it be ok to heavily mix water with regular body paint? I just want to make it easier on me to paint up bodies and whatnot without going through an entire tube of face paint.
Also, does anyone know how to make decent looking guts, brains, etc. out of just regular household items? All I need is a few ideas and I am sure I can just paint the materials to look the part.
Thanks for any help!
Also, does anyone know how to make decent looking guts, brains, etc. out of just regular household items? All I need is a few ideas and I am sure I can just paint the materials to look the part.
Thanks for any help!
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Permalink Reply by ClericRuss on -
Good lord in merciful heaven do not- under any circumstances- use "model paint" on a human being!
Now- that said, granted one could say "Well, I'm airbrushing on a human subject that's being paid as a model..." Well- we're not talking MPC or Revell, now are we?
"Acrylics" on human skin are not nearly as safe as you think they are- I've got stories I can share later if you're so inclined!
There are a myriad of different make-up companies out there willing to sell you the types of airbrush make up you'd need and you'd be amazed how much you can buy for relatively very little "ca-ching"...
Below is a photo from a gala where I did a "performance" piece involving a model, make-up two pasties and "unisex thong" along with $40 worth of feathers and a custom made MardeGras mask I happened to have...
All told, without my skill and time added to the final cost, you're looking at roughly $100 for the entire gala presentation [called "Avante Guarde Pante De Luv" for the event].
And "yes" in a nutshell, I basically painted a nude woman in front of $10,000-a-plate established elites for a very formal auction- my $3000 donated time and energy netted $200,000 for the domestic violence shelter that year in advertisement- I'm the balding "Jesse Ventura" Wannabe standing next to the model.
[Side note: it's amazing how many women were entranced with the procedure, the "freedom" offered by sans clothing and were willing to pay more than double what my going rate for Avante Guard usually goes for- all with "benefits" alongside the "application"... Too bad they'd have to share me with my wife- she the one that helps keep me out of trouble!]
Look for companies like Mehron that have their own line that is easy to use straight from the bottle- along with others, each with their own strengths and their own weaknesses.
You also have to consider that if you're applying to the body- that's one set of parameters- if you're applying to the body and to application appliances [rubber cuts, bullet holes, etc] you can NOT use the same type of make-up for both applications and expect the same results without a little preparation first.
Don't get me wrong- get out there and experiment! Just know that what you're embarking on will need more time and energy than a 16 pack of Tamya paints and a Badger... Let me see if I can dig up a book or two on the subject that taught me a lot and put the titles here for everybody to read up on- airbrushing is definitely a time saver on oh, so many levels- but it's not nearly as simple as you'd think it would be!
Experiment first on cardboard, white paper and then latex sheeting- then move up to humans after you have at least two or three of your own techniques worked out!
I'm certainly not telling you "no"- I'm just saying that you should "dip your toes first before you jump right in"!
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Permalink Reply by NaTaS on -
ha... Okay wear to start on the easy things.. ummm.
Brains.. Get a skull..get a cheap halloween mask and put it over skull. cover with cheap blood. cut open the skull before hand so lets say a zombie can get into it. Glue a bowl inside the top of the skull and fill it with cherry Jello.
Then have the lights not to bright. shoot the zombie snapping open the skull and scooping up the "brains" in his hands and just showing them in his face and in his or her mouth.. And you can do a nice close up on the mouth too. Just make sure not to hold the shot to long.
some drinkable blood..You can drink this stuff if you want, but it will turn your mouth bright red for who-knows-how-long. I don't suggest using it too often as new research shows that digesting too much of some dyes may cause cancer.
1 Can Frozen White Grape Juice Concentrate (this is kinda hard to find but you could try it with another light/white frozen juice)
2 tbsp. Red Food Color
1 tsp. Yellow Food Color
then chug chug chug
You can make some good scabs by using half and half water and unflavored gelatin. Just smear the stuff on your area, but work fast because it hardens really fast and won't stick anymore. It comes out crumbly, and scab-like, some will flake off while you work color onto it, but it'll wash right out of your brushes with warn water.
You can also mold gelatin if you use the same mixture but heat it until it melts. Don't let it boil though, because then you'll have bubbles in the final product. Gelatin turns out very rubbery and flexible, but it's only good for a short term use because it hardens when it dries and molds if you try to keep it wet.
You can speed up the drying of scabs using a hair dryer, and molds by sticking them in the fridge. Gelatin will melt in the hot sun or if you mess up you can melt it back down and try again.
want some mroe cheap ideas just ask.
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Permalink Reply by Adam Shadows on -
I just purchased some the other day and am still confused as to where to start. First off, I am just going to rub it on my arm to see if I am allergic to it (doubtful). Then I just need to know the simple rules that apply to this stuff. I really dont want to waste any, you know. Any help on this would be great too!
Thanks for the help guys!
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Permalink Reply by Laz on -
Loads!
You can build up layers of it to create cuts/holes, peel bits off to look like hanging skin, paint it, stick bits of bones out of it etc etc etc
Cleric is the guy to ask for detailed info
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Permalink Reply by Adam Shadows on
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Then Cleric is my man. I must send him a message. Thanks, Laz!
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Permalink Reply by ClericRuss on
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Lazenby is no slouch either- he's got the right idea!
There's 2 things to remember when it comes to liquid latex- well, there's more than 2 but let's start from the basics...
1 There's more than one type of latex.
Now as "simple" as that sounds- from there it gets complex- there's foams, pourable, slush & molde [yes, with an "e" on the end] latex varieties.
There are then varying degrees of cosmetic latex- the type of stuff you'll often find on store shelves and in blister packs for Halloween [looks like Wal-Mart has already started their line for the season- very dismal from previous years in my opinion- but as a hodge-podge of "found objects" it's a smorgasbord!]
The stuff that's sold in blister packs for facial use is fine- using your finger [yes, finger (washed I would hope!) the cotton ball tip is useless] apply it to "boney" regions of your skin like chin, cheek and jaw line areas- thin at first and adding a layer or two after letting the previous layer at least dry to the touch. [This is where a hair dryer set to a low heat setting helps].
INCREDIBLY CAREFULLY take a hat pin or, if you're not that skilled, a pointed toothpick- and pick at the middle of the patch you've attached to your actor [or your own] face until you can lift it up ever so slightly- with a pair of hair scissors [yes- I said HAIR- you can get them at a pet grooming rack at Wally World!] cut a hole in the part that you're still holding up with the pin/toothpick- wallah! instant hole-in-the-skull! Add make-up to add depth and you've got one scaly skin hole!
2 Remember to test for allergic reactions!
Do not do this on a person's [or your own] face! usually it's best to try a small patch on the back of a person's hand, or on the forward portion of the arm, closest to the wrist [like you were taking someone's pulse] this spot is actually the best & will get a reaction the quickest.
Allow 30 minutes to see if there's a skin reaction- if there is take it off and do not use latex on yourself or that person [I can get into silicones later- it's MUCH tougher to work with but you can get excellent results all the same]
As a reminder- you can go to pottery places and pick up cans of ammonia based "air cure" latex for vastly less than what you can at Halloween thrift shops and Wal-Mart! It's sold as a mold-making tool! Under no circumstances use this stuff on a person's face though as the ammonium base is incredibly high and you could legitimately suffocate a person given too much of this stuff on their face! [Like a dumb ass, I almost did this to myself 30 some-odd years ago as a kid just learning some of this on my own!]
Helpful tip of the day:
Pour some of this mold latex onto a sheet of glass or a mirror laying as level as possible. Once dry, powder [baby powder is just fine!] the top & then slowly roll it off the mirror/glass, powdering the bottom as you go along [it'll stick to itself instantly if yo don't!], once removed from the glass/mirror- congratulations, you now have a roll of "flesh" that can be used for applications or for a Zack to pull with his/her teeth with none of the gag reflex that cooked chicken skin [often boiled] often creates! [the chicken skin is tip #2 as well!]
I oughta start writing this up in my blog or contribute to The Workshop...
What do you guys think?
Cleric
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Permalink Reply by Adam Shadows on
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I'll be printing this off later today. And since I don't have band practice this evening, I will be able to work on this instead! Thanks Cleric!
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Permalink Reply by Laz on
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Copy and paste it into your blog and we can feature it, it's excellent stuff!
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Permalink Reply by jeff on -
Easy intestines
First get a pair of panty hose (the lightest shade you can find) and cut the legs off. Then tie one end of the leg up and stuff it with toilet paper and tie the other end. In a mixing bowl mix a batch of cherry jello and submerge the panty hose in it. Let it soak over night. When you take it out it will be pretty jiggly . I have experemented with this and it should give the desired effect. Add a good helping of fake blood. It can even be chewed on but be careful not to choke on the hose!
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