A cure?
We know its not possible, we know its not dreamable.....
But, what if it is?
Here are a few people i interviewed(Actually they're my friends....^_^) About the possibilities of a cure, this is their responses:
(NOTE:They asked me to put only a nickname or some sort instead of their real names)
"You cannot cure zombies! They are already DEAD! *laughs* "
Nonbeliever
"Um, i guess, with the right ingredients."
Chefno0b
"NO, the undead stay fricking dead."
Itsdone
So tell me....
IS there a cure for the walking dead?
Let me know......
Replies to This Discussion
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Permalink Reply by Jericho Syndrome on -
said the wizard Merlin before he was cut down.....
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Permalink Reply by 3i3638ulfks6u on -
actually its one of Arther C. Clarke's three rules.
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Permalink Reply by James McDonald on -
Heres the problem with that whole thing. If you want to think of zombies as walking rotting bodies.....well it just doesn't work. When tissue starts to rot, it can not be reversed. When things rot they stop functioning. A lot of peope don't understand what actually makes the body move, and Im not getting into a A&P lesson here. Simply put the heart has to move in order to move muscles, if its moving then the organism isn't dead.
Now to answer RJ's question.....if someone has been dead for more than 10 minutes there is a 99% chance of brain damage. 15 minutes and the possibility of brain damage is 100%. The only exception to that rule is for someone who was submerged in ice water. However, even in ice water after 45 minutes the chances of brain damage are 100%. I don't care what sort of technology anyone conjures up when brain functions are lost, they can not be restored. When parts of the body are deprived of O2 for long amounts of time they die, and when the die the tissue.
Its because of the reasons stated above that medicine has stopped looking in the direction of reversing conditions, and started looking in the direction of preventing them. Protocol for most ambulance services in large cities now states start a iced iv bag for spinal cord injuries, because the hold of reversing them if very low. Yes I have seen the articles about electrical stimilus, but that will never reverse the condition, just bypass the cause. If someone is paralyzed, and electrical stimulus corrects their paralysis thats great. Once something interrupts that stimulus their still paralized. Electrical stimulus can not move dead tissue either. Ive seen it move tissue where the person iis dead, but once the tissue itself dies..normally 1-4 hours after death the tissue will no longer move either because of oxygen deprevation.
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Permalink Reply by 3i3638ulfks6u on
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what about stem cells that can replace damaged tissue. imagine injecting enough stem cells into a body to completely regenerate the damaged of dead tissue, what amount nano machines the size of cells that can literally enter a cell and take over its functions. creating a sort of hybrid cyborg cell. or even programmable matter that can take the place of whole body parts. you an emt and everything so you i understand you can't see past the technology of today but these things are not only possible there already being created. very early stages yes but they are already here. this isn't science fiction anymore, so it will be sciense fact. in fact the best science fiction has already come true. space travel computers cellphones for god sakes once they were all just things of the imagination but now look, we have them all. life isnt as complicated as we all think it is, what is it really. an organic proses natures way of keeping meat fresh, once we fully understand it, we will master it, and bend it to our wills. there is nothing in the whole of creation we can not do if we put our minds to it. unless we destroy our selves before hand we will one day move galaxy's, bend time and space, and mold the very fabric of reality to our whims. we're young now, very very young. but i believe we were meant to be gods!
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Permalink Reply by PRIME_Ω_PREDATOR on -
You might be able to make things move by unnatural means. You won't restore memories and they are a big part of what makes us what we are.
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Permalink Reply by 3i3638ulfks6u on
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well true enough but imagine if your memories weren't just stored in your brain, imagine if you could plug something like a external memory up to your mind and down load a copy of all your memories, a back up for the soul if you would. then your body could be repaired of even a new one forged for you, then just boot up the back up and there you go, what if you had a chip in the back of your head that constantly saved your memories to a external drive located else wear. it will happen one day. they can already connect machines directly to the brain, it won't be long my friend it won't be long!
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Permalink Reply by Vatz on -
that would be a viable way to back-up the Spirit, but the actual Soul itself is a totally different entity, the way i see it. think of the Soul as what you really are, the most base and unaltered presence of self, which usually manifests itself in dreams. the Spirit is a sort of interface if you will that allows the Soul to manipulate the physical body and its corresponding mind (the mind also houses the Spirit).
back on topic, i can see how this would allow oneself to remember a past life, but how would you get the Soul back into the body? i'm very certain a body/mind could work with just a blank Spirit inserted, using the memories of that life as a sort of pre-set "If-Then" to allow it to make choices on its own, but without a Soul it wouldnt necessarily be "alive" in the same sense. my guess is a zombie (being brain-damaged) just has too much spiritual fragmentation and can only draw from the most basic and uncorruptible instinctual drives loaded into the brain.
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Permalink Reply by 3i3638ulfks6u on
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well everyone has their own interpretation of what a soul is. to me who we are is comprised of three things. memory's, like data on hard drive their ever experience we have ever had. the good the bad they help shape who we are. then theirs tour neural pathways. how are brains proses this data, the circet boards of our minds. and finnaly theres our souls, which to me is the msot important part, recognition of ones self. the understanding that we are alive, that we are an existence. this is what separates us from the animals. this is where ambition comes form, this is where dream's are born. it is the soft wear that runs on the circuit boards of our minds to proses the data that is our memory's. if you can transfer these three things into a machine, then is no different then us. then just as these things where copied from one body, they can then be placed into another one. a cloned body would have the same neural network as the original, the circuit board. memory's are not just static things in the brain, like pictures in a photo album. we don;t just simply flip the page and look at them. no every time you think of a memory your actually copying that memory and replacing the original. it would be like taking the picture out, taking a picture of the picture and putting that back in the album. so using that you can easily copy memory's to an external device, and then implant those copied memory's into a new brain. and it the combination of these two, circuitry and data, mind and memory that create the soul, perception. at least that's my take on, as well as many distinguished scientists as well.
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Permalink Reply by Jericho Syndrome on
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that does not compute. ERROR ERROR ERROR!!!!!!!
seriously a humans 'soul/spark/hamster on the wheel' is not a computers ghost in the machine that someone can easily compare things to, and what makes it so hard to find out what there is afterwards or if there is a cure for the end is because we don't know how we came up in the first place so the next best thing people do is compare to something they did make.
evolution theorists keep trying to come up with ways to prove there is no god but they wind up trumping themselves with 'well if we can simulate this then there could be someone who could actually do it' the best one i have seen is someone did a big bang simulation to the earth being made and sped it up showing millions of years go by in a grand total of five days 20 hours and 32 minutes to how the earth is today, needless to say he was ridiculed by his own teachers, taken out of Yale is now the most watched church pastor on satellite TV. but if you try and ask a question to anyone who DOES believe in anything then they give you a runaround that makes your head spin and go back to watching a science fiction show....
personally i do believe in a God, just call it my Afterlife insurance *see what i did there? 8D* and if there is any cure, like actual cure and not something to postpone until you die in your sleep. *which tends to happen if you live too long* then cool but keep in mind its those kinds of people that try to make it who will be the ones most likely to make zombies.....
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Permalink Reply by Apocalpyse on -
I really don't know what evolution theorists you are referring to but they aren't any that i've heard of. Why would an evolutionary theorists or any scientist working in a similar biology based field be doing experiments to simulate the big bang that is strictly a physicists field of study and completely outside the realm of a bio scientists interests?
As for the actual topic of a cure, if you are working on the principle that this theoretical situation is caused by a pathogen then there is absolutely the possibility for a cure to be developed whether it is a vaccination or an antibiotic. In the whole history of our biology a pathogen has never been presented which the body is not at the very least capable of recognising, it may still kill us, but that leaves space for individuals to be potentially immune to attack.
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Permalink Reply by Michael T. Douglas on -
Well I don't think thats good, because everything can be stolen from you except you. If we do some how find a way to store our memories else where, they can be stolen and you replaced by some other being. Besides if somone dies and there memories are saved and put in a new vessel, it still wouldn't feel like the same person to me. Carpe diem would no longer apply. We could be lazy forever and all the wonderful experiences wouldn't matter anymore.
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Permalink Reply by 3i3638ulfks6u on
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@Jericho Syndrome i think you misunderstood me i believe in god too, maybe more then anyone for one simple reason. can anyone remember their first day of high school science class. what is the first thing they taught you about the scientific method. EVERYTHING HAS TO COME FROM SOMETHING, AND NOTHING CAN COME FROM NOTHING. but take that simple scientific rule a step further and nothing should existence. there should be no mater in the universe because it had to come from something, it can't have just appeared. its called the singularity, the point at the creation of the universe where all scientific laws break down. which can only mean something beyond what we know, something beyond the very construct of reality must existence. and to me that thing is god.and in order to meet that being, we must first rise to its level, how can you possible hope to understand something unless you stand on par with it. again all this is just my two sense, i respect your views as i hope you do mine. and yeah we may make a few zombies along the may but trying and failing is better then never trying at all. and if we end up wiping our selves out it just means we were never meant for those heights to begin with. but the universe will keep spinning and perhaps some other intelligent self aware beings will reach the places we couldn't.
@Michael T. Douglas its true that that is a possibility and like with any advanced technology it comes with ways to abuse it, its the dark side of progress, but we can't hold back on it just because it could be used for evil. if we did that man would still be living in caves drawing on walls. if your interested in this though i suggest you check a show called ghost in the shell, it happens to be all about this. in a world where cybernetics have advanced to the point that most of the population have full mechanical body's and brains. the hacking of ones mind is as prevalent as the cyber crime of today. and imagine this, what if you had unlimited time to do what ever you wanted. as many life times as you want to master any skill. imagine what you could create if you didn't have to fear death. sure the power will make some lazy, others it will allow to reach greater heights. unparalleled heights that would be unattainable with but a single lifetime. imagine if da vinci had been alive all this time, Einstein, Tesla...imagine what they could have accomplished.
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