A Zombie Stronghold
Personally I have an interesting new one that I have never heard of before in mind. One that I just recently thought of while just driving in town was a parking garage. It is made of some solid reinforced concrete. The top floor could be modified to be made into a farm for your crops, contain a greenhouse, and a place for solar panels, as well as a few lookout posts. The other floors could be the barracks, supplies, etc. The ramp leading into the garage could be blockaded with vehicles, or just destroyed, although it is the harder of the two but safer. You could also enclose exposed floors from the weather with wood and other construction materials.
All in all it wouldn't be too hard to fortify one of these badboys into a zombie proof fortress in my mind. I'm interested in hearing your comments, and also your other ideas for a stronghold.
Tags: Base, Shelter, Stronghold
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Permalink Reply by TheStopper on -
Getting to Alcatraz wouldn't be that hard as long as you have a boat. Not to mention there haven't been prisoners in it for years, it's a tourist attraction now so the place is empty. I really have a problem with tree houses because it only takes 10 zombies before you risk being trapped in it, with concrete walls you could probably still slip out with 100 zombies surrounding you. Also tree houses have no way to support you during a siege, and compound with walls around it allows for farming on the interior.
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Permalink Reply by PRIME_Ω_PREDATOR on -
Do they still have the rollercoaster and that shooting star ride on the Stratosphere? What a rush.
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Permalink Reply by Riley on
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If you had enough trucks big enough to block the entrance then you probably could hold out for a lil while. But one thing you have to remember is that most parking garages aren't enclosed so if you were staying there in the winter the concrete and weather would make it to cold
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Permalink Reply by Alexander Van Ghoul on -
I would think that the simpler the better. While a house built on stilts, in my opinion, would be ideal, I would go (when no better option is available) with a treehouse built at a decent height. Obviously, it'd have to be of a decent size. But I think that the higher it is, the safer you would be.
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Permalink Reply by Otaku on -
Omg. Good idea, but lets hope there arent any hidden zombies on the lower levels.
Oh and another thing- Doesnt concrete eventually become unstable from errosion (from rain) and what not?
I'm sure it be a while until that happened... :/
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Permalink Reply by 28sdk28 on
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all the building works would attract the zombies to ur hideout and especially in the city you would be taken over in a couple of hours best idea is to have a safe house built well before outbreak and be there safe and sorry btw anyplace near water doesnt mean ur safe theres water zombies as well you know... best place would be in the snow where zombies would freeze or somewhere untouched!
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Permalink Reply by Ryan peck on
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Has anyone thought of using or remodeling any one of the hundreds of castles that are all over the world? I think it would be a great idea as long you weren't by yourself, too big, too much to do, but most of them are already well fortified and could keep people out for centuries like they did in their prime, also, the people who had them built, usually wanted to be able to provide fresh, clean water for their civilians and most likely are already built on or near some sort of body of water. Most of you work is already done for you. Same witha prison, you have thousands of them around the U.S. alone, all of them are meant to keep people locked in, so why couldnt you keep Z's locked out? You might have to fight a little to get in, but once your in and get shit running, your set. It's really your choice how to utilize what you have around you, there is many great places I would go, and I would hope to meet some of you along the way.
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Permalink Reply by Claire on -
Tree house - Bad idea unless you could go all Kevin Costner in Prince of Theives and have a network of Treehouses set up with ropebridges from Tree to Tree LMAO... would be awesome but unlikely!
Alcatraz, could work however the boat trip to and from is notroiously difficult and a petrol boat would run out of fuel eventually so rowing back and forth could present it's own life threatening challenge..
Car park is sounding like the better option so far but it would need to be small to medium in size in order to do it up quickly... the cold thing is a non issue depending where you are in the world, blankets and sleeping bags will help and if you can find insulation at a hardware store your set... Ideally you'd have a temp abode set up nearby, so you could work on fixing up the garage over a few days depending on how many of you there are in the group... you'd need a couple look outs at least and a few people doing the works...
Where i am we're surounded about 350degrees by water, it's about 5 minutes to any place lol with beaches on one side and dock yards and navy docks on the other... I thought perhaps using the tankers that are anchored in the Bay... the water is deep enough that even water zeds couldn't reach it but also the Bay is spooned by land about 300degrees so it doesn't suffer from storms etc. The waters are generally calm cos a small row boat could get you to and from the boat to gather supplies... since the tankers are built for months at sea they're usually well stocked anyway so you could go a while without having to return to land. You wouldn't need fuel cos you're not going anywhere and the bay is surrounded 50% by Spanish lands and 50% by Gibraltar coast.. meaning there are supplies and areas to scavange that wouldn't require much travel once on land... AND if you had to abandon ship due to say sinking there'd be a host of other tankers available... from my window i count about 15-40 on a daily basis with one huge cruise ship coming in daily... The marina offers a range of small yachts and row boats, theres a Boatyard gas station on the water, an army base for weapons should the need arise...
AND... if you get sick of being on the boat, you can always head back on to land, the Rock of Gibraltar offers plents of great places to live and hide out, it was after all a fortress and survived a 4 year siege lol 1979-1783 which was one of the longest continous sieges in world history... ANYHOO... There you go... there's miles and miles of tunnels with purpose built areas inside the rock and the landscape itself would provide great protection as the zeds would have a hear time getting to you..
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Permalink Reply by Zo on -
Good idea, man. And the zombies would have one way up, if you destroy the stairs. Barricade the walls and you have a little place to wait out the invasion. Bout one problem-how would you water the crops?
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Permalink Reply by Chris Starner on
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Parking garages are much too open in most cases and the amount of preparation on the fly that you would have to do to get it liveable would not only be daunting but would be loud and attract lots of unwanted attention from Zeds, government patrols, or bandits. The entrances would be hopelessly porous and water would be something in short supply. You definitely want to keep trips out and about to an absolute minimum. The whole dirt thing would be a monumental task.
I plan on using my house and am currently working on the things needed to stay here. It isn't difficult to build walls with concrete blocks around your property and reinforce them with rebar. as long as the walls are up everything else is just semantics. I'm having a well dug for water, buying steel doors for the house and interior rooms and buying 1/4 inch, pressure treated plywood covered in epoxy to cover the windows. The epoxy, in three layers is roughly as strong as steel, in fact they build boats out of the stuff. Break-in bars on the entrances. All of the preparation can be done before hand and the windows boarded in minutes with almost no worries about Zeds because I just shut the iron gates. I'm separating the front from the back with additional walling to minimize the risk of a cascading failure in security and will plant crops in the back yard as it is the south facing area. I am starting to breed rabbits and plan on buying a goat. They can be kept in the front yard or the basement......probably the yard. I usually keep about six months worth of food in the house so I'm not worried about how long it will take for the crops to come to fruition. Battery powered generators are easy to build using either deep cycle aquatic batteries or old bulldozer batteries and connecting them to a wind generator and solar panels which can all be built for very little money and time. Add a voltage regulator and you will be the only one on the street using the AC and refrigerating your food. All of the instructions to these can be found readily on the net, so in short, do it now, don't wait until you need it.
I have many friends that suggest walmarts, costcos and supermarkets of all ilks. Whereas they MIGHT have food, chances are they don't. You will get there to find a thousand looters, and empty shelves, about to get eaten by the infected. Those places on store about three days worth of food for their community. When people start panicking they will almost assuredly have the place cleaned out before civility breaks down and looting begins. Gas stations will most likely be empty except in rural areas so you had better have gas in abundance or build yourself a gassifier which creates usable gas for your car from wood chips. You could argue getting a hand pump or using a hose to siphon gas from cars on the road but none of that is a permanent solution. You need to be able to sustain your existence because eventually the free booty will run out or become unusable. I also want to say that going to the gun shop is a really bad idea. You will get shot by the people that own it or the people that beat you there to rob it. Stay quiet, keep the lights covered and play Need for Speed on your generator powered comp in the AC. and drink a nice cold beer you made out of the wheat you grew in the winter.
I can't help but think, with a little preparation, all you would need to do is go home, shut the gates and watch the rest of the world go to hell as you plug in your generator and board up the windows. The key to this is keeping quiet for the most part and not letting light get out at night. Out of sight is, after all, out of mind.
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Permalink Reply by TheStopper on
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It seems you have a plan, and a good one at that. A modified home can create a great stronghold if it is done right. The question I have for you is this, where do you go from there? Are you going to hide in your house until you die, or will you be trying to rebuild civilization? A home is great for the short term with a family of two, but at some point you will need to move to a larger stronghold in order to form larger communities.
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Permalink Reply by Chris Starner on
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Well.....The idea is to wait until winter should it happen at another time where exposure to the elements will kill off or at least freeze the undead. Our family has a farm off the Ohio river where the nearest neighbor lives miles away. We could go there to add crops or just scavenge more materials from vacant houses to use to expand fortifications come spring here. By then I would have gotten rid of most if not all zombies in the area with a hammer or something else quiet. Ice is notoriously brittle.
Any of my surviving neighbors are welcome to help expand and therefore grow more food. It would become a community but the price would be help in expansion and loyalty. Not everyone will bug out, and not everyone will be a stranger. Those people will be interested in helping when they run out of water and food and see me sitting on my wall eating a bowl of spaghetti. People will still understand the concept of "the deal" and will understand patronage. Not everyone will be in a gang of looters. They will contribute and in turn they get protection from a larger, better armed group in a reasonably safe environment and get a share of the food they helped to grow. Let us not forget the obvious importance people will place on what knowledge they bring or that you have that will be mutually helpful. If they choose not be helpful and do by chance happen to be looters.....well....I plan on defending myself and have the reloader, powder and original casings to do it quite effectively for quite some time. Another benefit for would-be-stragglers that actually would want to contribute instead of defile.
With all of that being said, I would have everything I needed and none of the problems of social networking to deal with so I could just hole up indefinitely or until society began to rebuild. It depends on who knocks on my door.
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