Legally obtained inexpensive firearms, ammo, accessories and survival supplies.

This is a controversial subject for many. The battle between 2nd Amendment Advocates and Gun Ban Advocates has been going on for a long time and will likely go on much longer then we care to follow. From my posts in these forums I'm sure you know where I stand. I am pro 2nd Amendment, for those who are unsure. This discussion has nothing to do with politics so I will get off that subject and refuse to debate it in this forum or at least this discussion. I have an email box like everyone else for debate. I am posting this discussion to let people know that there are effective inexpensive firearms to be had. I also want people to know that I do not support or encourage anyone who is under the legal age of ownership, has mental health considerations or has other restrictions not limited to but including certain criminal offenses purchasing, obtaining or utilizing firearms. This discussion is to talk guns and accessories. If you are under age, normally 18 for rifles and shotguns and 21 for pistols, or live with your parent(s) you must follow the rule of the house and everyone must follow the rule of law. In a zombie apocalypse things change so if one occurs then by all means STAY ALIVE.

There are many types of weapons out there. In recent years the market has been flooded with what are call "Assault Rifles". The term is understandable when coming from someone who does not use or know their way around guns. The way I see it, any rifle in the hands of someone who knows how to use it can be an assault rifle. An acronym I learned in the ARMY more then 20 years ago and try to stick to today is K.I.S.S.

Keep
It
Simple
Stupid

If you keep things simple the less likely you are to become confused and get yourself or someone else hurt or killed.

If you take anything from this discussion remember this.
HANDLING FIREARMS CAN BE DANGEROUS. IT CAN BE MORE DANGEROUS IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING. IT CAN BE DEADLY IF YOU ARE STUPID.
CASE IN POINT:

Feel free to add photos and opinions. Be kind.

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Any suggestions when you're looking for some sort of shotgun?
it depends on your wallet. You can obtain a Stoeger for between $300 and $400. The TTN I bought cost me $275, TTN is Chinese made and many folks frown on them. You can get Stoegers at Bass pro Shops or any gun store. You can probably order the TTN at the same stores.
I was at Gander Mountain yesterday, browsing around. I found a Stoeger Uplander for around 450, I'm considering buying it. They also had a Mossberg 500 Cruiser with the pistol grip, once I save up a some more cash I might buy either or.
I like the Mossberg too. My buddy "Ted From The Story" recently bought one. I think he has yet to shoot it though. The Uplander has the longer barrel (22" to 26") I believe. The coach gun has the shorter one(20"). Check their website.

http://www.stoegerindustries.com/

I bought my Mossberg 500 first. The coach gun looks cool but it is a niche gun with limited firepower.
I just checked, I think I'm going to go with the Mossberg, thank you though.
Be safe and responsible.


STAY ALIVE

PP
There are a lot of guns out there that can be had for under $100. Not from my wallet. They shoot and they kill like any other gun. I just won't discuss them. Now, I will take a free gun. I received a Hi Point 9mm carbine for free at the beginning of the year. Brand new these guns go for around $200 +/-. They are a sturdy and fairly accurate weapon. The biggest problem is that they are just butt ugly. I spent about $180 to put some aftermarket items on it. This included a flash suppressor, an ATI Stock, a picanninny rail and a Barska hollow site. The mag holds 10 rounds. I bought an aftermarket mag that holds 15 rounds. The manufacturer 10 round mag is more reliable. This carbine is an excellent home/zombie defense weapon. It has not jammed once and the Barska site is dialed in to 50 yard x-ring shots. 9mm ammo is readily available and I just happened to have some in storage from when I owned a 9mm pistol. The Hi Point is available in 9mm and .40S&W at this time. I believe they are developing a .45 ACP. If you were to buy this weapon new and add the aftermarket items that I did you can expect to pay around $400 total. You'll pay double for the Beretta Storm. Here are a couple comparison photos. The Hi Point is made in Ohio too. The bottom pic is the butt ugly Hi Point in original garb.

A few years back I saw some SKS Sporter rifles for sale at a local sporting goods store that has since gone out of business. They were imported I assume. They had the original wood stock and bayonet. They were selling for about $220. I believe they were chambered for 7.62 x 39 but I could be mistaken. Does anyone own one of these guns and have you modified it? I've seen some aftermarket items for them. How is the accuracy up to say about 150 yards? I've been thinking of buying one but I have another 45LC lever gun I beleive I'll buy first.
The SKS I bought from a provate sale came with a bunch of goodies. For 300, I got the SKS, the original stock, the thumb-hole sporter stock, the 10 round fixed and a 20 round fixed, a bandoleer, a scope with the receiver cover and another heat shield. I could upload some pictures of everything but right now I have it configured in it's stock format.
Pics are cool. Any pics.
Let me just mess around with my camera for a bit, haha.

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