Melee weapon of choice?
When you've run out of ammo, your last hope for survival becomes the closet thing you can use as a melee weapon. So lets hear what you've got! Anything can be a melee weapon; golf club, nightstick, a guitar, even a frying pan. Hold them high and get ready to swing, cause the horde is coming!
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Permalink Reply by LazerScythe on -
I'm gunna stop commenting for a bit and give others a chance to add their input. XP
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Permalink Reply by Laz on -
I love the idea of the zombie tools website but their constrction methods would mean that actually using them would be verging on dangerous for the user. No heat treatment/pattern welding etc
They even say on their website that only a few handpicked items are 'heat treated' .....which means that even their very best pieces are only slightly warmed with a blow torch. Everything else is just cut from a sheet of metal with an angle grinder and sharpened.
Nothing is hand/machine forged and nothing is tempered. They are awesome looking wall hangers but that is it :(
You will be infinitely better off raiding your local hardware store for real working tools (axes/garden loppers etc) or if you want swords etc then be prepared to spend a lot of money. Cold Steel (brand) level of quality should be the bare minimum ( $350 minimum) for anything woth using that wont end up being dangerous to you while using
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Permalink Reply by LazerScythe on
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Yeah you don't wanna end up like this guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2EQWCpnIR8
Plus they say they are drunk most of the time them make them so I guess they aren't that well made.
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Permalink Reply by Kendra Hetrick on -
oh my god. i seriously "lol"d.
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Permalink Reply by Slick Joshua on -
LOL
Yea, I have read a lot about weapon forging. It is really hard to keep the steel hard enough to hold an edge, but still flex to not break.
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Permalink Reply by Laz on
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Yeah those are pretty much a glorified version of you going into your garage and cutting a sword shape from a road sign with a hacksaw then sharpening it. They just have a nice hacksaw and pretty cosmetic tricks.
Nice too look at though, the styles would probably be bad to use effectively too. The 'old fashioned' sword patterns are the evolutionary point (ha de har!) of the sword which has taken thousands of years to progress to. The zombie tools weapons are mostly inspired by cartoon/movies instead of actual effective killing technique.
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Permalink Reply by LazerScythe on
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Now a days its all about guns and bazookas so no ones really done any research on the physics of cutting some one in half with a sword, which is why you won't find any modern weapons specifically designed to kill a Zombie, even katana's would not be that great against Zeds because they are designed for sword on sword contact, so are modified to defend your self and not just kill.
Oh, and I like that all the examples you have given in discussion brief are from L4D2.
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Permalink Reply by Alex Kalac on -
http://zombietools.net/about-zombie-tools/
"Do you guys actually make these blades?
Yup, we do everything in our shop in Missoula, Montana. Here’s our basic process:
1) We cut the basic sword shape out of bars of quality 5160 spring steel. 5160 is one of the best steels to use for longer blades like ours as it is more durable and less prone to breakage than other steels (like stainless).
2) For some of our blade models, we will then heat and hammer the blade into shape.
Max hammers a Zombie Tools blade
3) We grind the blade to within 20% of its final edge, and give the blade its “distal taper,” the gradual reduction of blade material from its handle to its point, which reduces weight and gives it its balance.
4) We then heat the blade to just above 1500 degrees and quench it in oil. This hardens the blade. We then put the blades in an oven to take them back up to around 400 degrees, which tempers it, or returns flexibility to the blade. The blade is then cleaned and polished.
5) Next, we cut our basic handle shapes from T6 aluminum, we attach the handle with steel pins, and then sculpt the handle to its final shape using powergrinders and hand files and rasps.
6) Finally, the blade is spattered with a beeswax/tar concoction and painted with ferric chloride acid which etches a pattern into the blade. "
They heat treat and temper ALL their blades. I recently asked them in an email and they confirmed.
Additionally, the blades are based off of effective weaponry. For example, the Vakra is based off of the tried and true Kukri:
As for their other blades, with the exception of The Harvester, the Apokatana, and the ZT Spike, they are based off of top heavy cleaving weapons (such as a Panga or a Bolo, which is significantly more effective for chopping through flesh and bone.
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Permalink Reply by Alex Kalac on
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Plus, Bruce Campbell approves. So it must be good.
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Permalink Reply by Kendra Hetrick on
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epic.
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Permalink Reply by Laz on
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It says on their website themselves they don't, you even quoted it:
2) For some of our blade models, we will then heat and hammer the blade into shape.
the stuff you highlighted (number 4) is just the process that they do for the few blades that they actually treat with heat
Additionally and more importantly 5160 steel for swords is terrible unless a huge amount of skill and care is used with the heat treating. The fact that they say that only some of their weapons are heat treated is worrying for the price they are charging.
Also they have never supplied weapons for testing and the only review i can find on youtube is this, by one of the actual makers of their stuff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdS92qvWclw
compare it to a quality blade of similar style/size:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4rV4Bn3-g8&NR=1
Conclusions:
1. The blade is terrible and cannot cut through the (relativly small) tatami mat properly.
2. The people who make the blades can't be trusted to swing them properly, and thus cannot be expected to make them properly.
don't get me wrong a lot of their stuff looks incredibly cool, I just wouldn't ever trust one in a SHTF situation ..... or tatami mat cutting situation lol
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