Probably the worst weapons of zombie killing

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Permalink Reply by Jacoby cox on October 22, 2011 at 7:35pm

Ok the basic civilian won't know how to do that and it's still louder  and I looked it up and that's week a combat reload with a ar is faster every one should give up a shotgun is not a great zombie weapon it's cliche like a chainsaw

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Permalink Reply by John Lemmerman on October 22, 2011 at 8:19pm

One comment on this.  yeah the shot gun will reload alot faster.  but look at what was said.  after your out of ALL of your 30ROUND magazines.   lets say i have 5 magazines.  im a fan of 1 shot 1 kill.  so i go through 150 zombies b4 im concerned about this.  150 shotgun shells is big and bulky.  and the zombies better be spread out enough for me to load up.  but with my 9mm.  BAM, BAM, BAM, BAM.  they keep commin.  i keep shootin...lol  Just my thoughts

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Permalink Reply by Eric Barton on October 30, 2011 at 11:19am

I'm not knocking rifles. rifles are an intricate part of  a team, but you can' say a shotgun should be completely taken away and are useless. we run in three man to four man teams. two or three rifles and a shotgun. I run the Remington 870 and love it to death. Shotguns are the most versatile light weapon system. a rifle only shots maybe two types of ammunition at most. look at all the types for shotgun. Birdshot, buck and ball, normal buckshot, dragon's breathe, door breaching rounds, etc. There are so many different types of rounds that you can use in that system. and when you fire a 00 buck shot, that's like shooting 8 rounds of .38.  A shotgun has a firm planted place in the ZPOC.

 

Now lets say you do have a horde advancing on you and you need to by some time. I can shot off a couple 0 buckshot off the ground and skip them down hitting the Zeds in the legs. yes i know it wound kill them, but it will make them fall and make the one's behind them trip on the front row, buying us some time to get away.

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Permalink Reply by PRIME_Ω_PREDATOR on October 30, 2011 at 11:51am

John makes a good point. 150 rounds compared to maybe 8+1 and 6 on the sleeve. I can single load all day long but I'd rather slap another mag in. Shotguns are good weapons. They are awesome weapons and are very versitile. I love my Mossberg 500 Persuader. If it was all I had I would have no problem surviving. That being said, it isn't all I have. It isn't my first choice. That would go to my AR. But a lot of it is situational. If I'm looking to make a point there's nothing that says "Don't Mess Up My Day!" like a 2 3/4 inch slug being racked into a pump shotgun. With human adversaries it can be very intimidating. So can seeing a half dozen dudes in digicam bearing AR 15 rifles heading at you. But the shotgun has its place. For me, at least initially, the shotgun will be in the scabbard on my back.

AR in hand ready for business. .45 acp on my thigh or belt one in the pipe. Mossy 500 on my back loaded with slugs or buckshot. K-bar or Kukri on my belt. The load out will be different if I'm bugging home but if I have time to get ready for a fight you get the bull.

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Permalink Reply by James Carnes on October 23, 2011 at 1:14pm

Hey prime, this is totally off subject, but I know you know a shitload about guns. How thick of a sheet of steel can stop a 7.62 round?

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Permalink Reply by PRIME_Ω_PREDATOR on October 28, 2011 at 3:54pm

I don't know.

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Permalink Reply by Zombie Hunter 223 on October 30, 2011 at 11:04am

The 7.62x39 is a big round, I havent shot my Wasr at anything metal yet just at the range. But I imagine that you would have to have a level 3 vest or above to stop one.

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Permalink Reply by PRIME_Ω_PREDATOR on October 30, 2011 at 11:35am

Level III is only gonna stop pistol rounds. It's probably rated for .44 magnum at best. I'd have to look at the charts to be sure. It won't stop hi powered rifles. As I said in an earlier thread, even certain FMJ .22lr and .17 HMR rounds will penetrate kevlar. They may not do a whole lot of damage but they can get through. .22 lr and .17HMR get through because the pointed tip can part the kevlar. Where the velocity and sheer power of some rounds like a 7.62x39 or 5.56x45 will bull through kevlar. Plate armor combined with Kevlar will defeat many rounds but then you have your beast ammo used by many sniper. 300 Winchester, 300 Savage, 338 Lapua, 50BMG and even 7.62x51(.308 Win) will tear through a lot of shit.

Will 7.62x39 go through metal? It depends on the thickness.

 

 

Here is a Wikipedia list. Go about a third done the page to the types.

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Permalink Reply by The Bruin on October 19, 2011 at 8:23pm

I disagree.  Shotguns can be used in a variety of different ways that make them valuable as a survival tool.  I don't have a "Primary" weapon, I just use what works...

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Permalink Reply by Robert McGrady on October 20, 2011 at 5:17pm

Who ever carries around a shot gun is stupid. Those things suck.

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Permalink Reply by John Lemmerman on October 23, 2011 at 7:47pm

i disagree.  Shotguns ABSOLUTELY have a place. I just personally wouldn't use it as a primary.  But i would have one in my pack for sure.  Yeah i say pack because it would fit.  i would have it sawed off.  i would probably use it when i needed to shred a zombie or group of them to get through. Again.  Just my opinion.

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Permalink Reply by Travis Terror on October 30, 2011 at 10:06am

So ya obviously you dont know about firearms since pump shotguns are 1 of the most reliable weapon systems out there...do your research before you speak children, a semi auto carbine will malfunction before a pump shotgun thats a fact  I have a Arsenal arms AK-47, and a ruger SR9c with roughly 3,000 rounds through them and they have both jammed...now my mossberg 590A1 I have over 5,000 rounds through it and it has went bang every time not 1 jam or failure to fire...So believe me pump shotguns are gold in a z apoc

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