Shotgun slamming

I have noticed a lot of shotgun slamming and I wonder whats the deal . Well it's short ranged is one I keep hearing but as far as I'm concerned range is relative if I see a zed I'm to close . You can't carry as much ammo as you can for an AR 15 as an example sure you can carry a lot more ammo for it but try to stop a raging momma black bear with a 223 and you will have an empty mag and a bunch of bite marks on you ass . Don't limit your self to one option If I'm in open country the AR is in my hands if its backwoods time the 12ga is up front .

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Permalink Reply by Patrick S on April 15, 2011 at 9:34am
Yea I know the bear thing is real low on the threat list but I can see  some one letting the zoo animals out so they can (Live Free) and that wont be fun . How much should one person be able to carry on there back weight wise ?
Permalink Reply by Wildman Brown on April 15, 2011 at 9:46am

A person should be able to carry 1/3 to 1/2 their body weight

 

Permalink Reply by Suigeneris on April 15, 2011 at 10:35am
Permalink Reply by Wildman Brown on April 15, 2011 at 10:52am
All those shells and they still have to be loaded one at a time...
Permalink Reply by Jericho Syndrome on April 15, 2011 at 8:23pm
you could get a SAIGA but I'm not sure how easy they are to come by...........
Permalink Reply by Wildman Brown on April 15, 2011 at 8:28pm
SAIGA's are easy to come by, but I think the highest capacity mags only hold 10 or 12 rounds and cost somewhere around $100/each.
Permalink Reply by Jericho Syndrome on April 17, 2011 at 5:41pm

hey a 10 round mag to easily swap when you run out, or around a basic 8 round that you have to reload ONE BY ONE....

 

Permalink Reply by Wildman Brown on April 17, 2011 at 6:06pm

Since it's only going to be useful inside 50 meters, I'd rather have a SAIGA in .410 rather than 12 gauge. Lighter recoil would allow for faster follow up shots.

Permalink Reply by Ron Salter on April 16, 2011 at 7:38pm
Range is not an issue, a slug will do its job at 80-100yrds, outside that range there is no point at shooting with any weapon, it's easier and more economic to simply walk away.All the tactics espoused are for use on living targets that fight back, zeds are a different enemy. You don't need rapid fire unless there is a huge hoard and lets face it, if their are that many then you had better be in a bunker because no matter what weapon you have with you they will out number the rounds you have so it's best to get running. The American West was won with lever guns and single action revolvers against a living enemy, don't get caught up in the military hype about modern firearms, they are great for modern war fare but zeds are far from modern.
Permalink Reply by Wildman Brown on April 17, 2011 at 9:06am

Have any of you ever actually fired a shotgun with slugs? It kicks like a mule, you have to recover from the recoil, then bring the weapon back on target. 

 

A 12 gauge shotgun has pretty much the largest bore available on the commercial market. Compare that to an AR chambered in 5.56, with a bore about the same as a .22. The kick is minimal, can be handled by almost anyone, and target transition is quick, plus the weapon is light as long as you don't hang a bunch of shit off it. 

 

What benefit does a shotgun really have?

Permalink Reply by Ron Salter on April 17, 2011 at 5:24pm

Yea, I fire my shotgun every weekend.
The advantage the shotgun has is that they are available in most countries. Step outside the US and you are going to have a lot of trouble finding an AR. or any other assault based weapon.

A DB Shotty requires an absolute minimum of maintenance too, even a non-gun person can look after one.

Permalink Reply by Milo Foxie on April 17, 2011 at 6:14am
Allow me to bring in something i like to call perspective.

the Reloading speed you are looking at is the immediate, and runs on the assumption that you have speedloaders/magazines ready and on standby.

In the short run yes, any gun with a magazine will reload faster than a shotgun, but the Shotgun has quite a few things your handguns and rifles cant do.

For instance, "Shell in pump fire" when you empty all your magazines from your Submachine gun, it's reload speed is more or less hammered down to being the slowest thing possible.

Shotguns keep a reliable reload time you can count on, Magazines work untill your magazine is empty and needs to be refilled, shotguns just keep going at the same pace, it may be slower, but it's defiantly more versitle.


I know nothing about guns, so i dont rely on them and think they'll always work for me, Use your brains and stop having your pissing contests onto the dear loveable shotgun simply because you have the latest Military fashion item

Wuv, the Furry who's gonna outlive you ~<3

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