Shotguns, zombie killing machines or extra weight?
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Permalink Reply by James McDonald on -
Haha, as someone who hates Ford motor company I find this really funny. lol I would rather have a sister in the whore house, than a brother in a Ford.
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Permalink Reply by PRIME_Ω_PREDATOR on -
Saw that the other day. Not bad for a pump shotgun. I'd rather a semi auto bullpup. $880 is a bit thick when you can get an Remington 870 or Mossberg 500 for 1/2 that price.
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Permalink Reply by James McDonald on
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Pretty killer shotgun, but its new and most new guns always have major issues. I live about 25 or 30 miles from the Kel Tec factory. Sometimes they will let you try firearms there before you buy them. Id love to get my hands on one of them. Not sure if its going to be worth a damn though, Kel Tec, has had a lot of problems with their firearms in the past. Especially the first gens.
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Permalink Reply by Kandyman on -
Im glad someone mentioned it. I really was tired of reading all the pages on my phone. I like the KSG because u can do 00 buck in one side and slugs in the other switching as u as you please as well as hand load 3" shells I think. It is also a bullpup.
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Permalink Reply by James McDonald on
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Since I posted my first Kel Tec shotgun I had a chance to see one in person. I went up there when they had open shop day. They do that every couple of months. You can go in and they show the production line, and new developments and things. Well things they want known anyways. They would not let us fire one, but we got to watch them torture test one. I was really really impressed with the way it responded. It functioned very well even after being buried in sand, concrete dust, soupy sludge from the river, heat and cold tested too. I was really impressed it showed little signs of failure. I wouldnt have believed it if I wasnt seeing if for myself.
The only hiccup they had was cycling between feed tubes after buring it in sand. It cycled a little rough, and you could hear sand grinding in it a bit. Still pretty impressive.
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Permalink Reply by Okota on -
Glad to hear the good impression you had of the KSG. I've been kicking around the idea of getting on the wait list for one.
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Permalink Reply by James McDonald on
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Yea if you want to carry a shotgun, and want the ability to load more rounds its definitely the economical choice to the saiga 12. Since no one can get access to aa12's and their heavy and cumbersome, its a great system. I think I would wait for the gen 2 to come out though, normally with Kel tec everything just gets better the more they make it.
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Permalink Reply by Valentin Vasquez on -
that baby looks beautiful. it's about time firearm companies started producing newer designs for weapons and a shotgun like that could easily start replacing those out in military and LE service ones all the hiccups are ironed out of their systems. now maybe someone will come up with a new pistol design cause all those 1911 clones and glock are starting to irritate me.
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Permalink Reply by James McDonald on
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Your not going to see a replacement for pistol designs any time soon. Honestly pistols today are very accurate, and well made. They have very few hiccups in their designs, and dont malfunction that often. 1911's seem to have more issues than glocks, and other models. I own a pair of sig p226's one in 9mm, and one in .40 caliber and their both dead on target, and have never malfunctioned. Ive put probably 4000 rounds through the 9mm, and the only time Ive ever had a bullet not go out of the barrel is when I had a dud round.
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Permalink Reply by PRIME_Ω_PREDATOR on
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The 1911 has been around for 100 years. Most race guns in major competitions are 1911 based. The only problem with the 1911 is normally the operator. Occasionally you'll get a mistake from the factory or a bad manufacturer. Mistakes can be fixed and bad manufacturers go away from lack of sales. A lot of issues with the 1911 come from people trying to customize their own guns and screwing things up.
Sig makes some decent pistols. I've been thinking about picking up a used P226 and refurbing it. I don't have any 9mm guns and am looking to get rid of my last 40 S&W. I beleive the "love affair" with the 40S&W is waining. My department got rid of them and moved up to 45 acp a few years ago.
We went to the Benelli M-4 12 gauge a couple years ago too. I prefer the Rem 870 and Mossberg 500. The Benelli is finicky and isn't as tough.
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Permalink Reply by James McDonald on
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The only issue Ive ever had with the 1911 is when it gets dirty. Ive had them jam acouple of times coming out of the water. As far as firing accurate I dont think there are many pistols out there that fire better than a good 1911. I love the pistol, but they seem to finichy in the dirt and the mud. I have a Kimber Pro Covert 2 I won last year at a tactical shooting comp. It was the best second place prize Ive ever received lol. It is a great 1911, super accurate and thus far has not jammed when Ive abused it. Although, it is definitely not a gun that received much abuse. It goes to the range once a week and gets about 50-100 rounds put through it and thats about the extent of its life. Ive used it at a competition once, but I dont shoot it enough to be really good with it.
I would highly recommend the p226. I have two of them, and they are a lot fo fun to shoot. I shoot the 9mm a lot more simply cause its cheaper than the .40 to shoot. I have been reloading for several years now, and its the only way I would consider shooting anything bigger than a 9mm on a regular basis.
Dont get me started about Benelli, I absolutely hate those shotguns. I worked for a friend for awhile who owns a gun shop while I was getting my state medic license. We had more problems with Benelli than any other shotgun. In the 8 months I worked there I think we sent back 4 Benelli's. The only Benelli that I would own is the Super Black Eagle. It is a pretty good semi auto, but their pumps arent worth the steel their made from.
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