SHTF
I am unsure if a discussion like this has arouse, but anyhow without further adieu.
So your at work, at home, or out too lunch with a loved one, where ever or whatever it be. And your hear wind of oddities happening around your town, country, etc. Sounds like a undead rising. The media may distort the situation. Too unclear too be a hoax or a reality.
How long would it take you get it in gear and get ready? Let's be realistic, Something of this magnitude would not start out horribly fast. But at a slow steady pace.
How long would it take before you really started too see what was happening? Some may bug out and wait, some, it may take the grim realization of your neighbors being consumed in the very streets in front of your home. And some may lock the doors, close the shades and wait for rescue.
What i am really trying to say is, how would you react in the incubation state of an outbreak? What would be some actions and precautions you would fulfill too keep your loved ones and yourself safe?
Keep in mind the panic and chaos that would ensue within the first couple hours,days,etc. Congested roadways, looters, riots, and flocks of panicked citizens trying to escape any way possible. Not too mention law enforcement/military intervention. The whole sha-bam
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Permalink Reply by Michael T. Douglas on -
If someone spit in my face, I would have beat their ass, legal or not. I would have done it while everyone watched, not only for health reasons, but for respect. You just don't do that shit.
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Permalink Reply by PRIME_Ω_PREDATOR on -
He learned a valuable lesson. Plus there was insult added to his injury.
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Permalink Reply by James McDonald on -
We're covered here to some extent, and the police definitely have a lot more room to play with whats ok and not. I worked at a station for a while out in down town Orlando in a real nasty part of town. We had this Italian guy who was always scheduled on the box with me, he was always ready to throw down with someone. We'd get called out for a something simple, and he'd find away to make a fight out of it somehow.
I always take care of the cops that patrol my area. Ive met firefighter medics, or just regular medics that try to get in a pissing contest with the cops about medical issues. I would much rather keep those guys happy, cause next time I show up on scene and its not secure their going to have my back. I have got into it once or twice with acouple of rookies trying to flex that new authority and pull take someone to county, who really needed to go to the hospital. Most of the time when you explain to one of those young pups that the patient could die, and that he needs to sign off on the paper work if he's going to take them they smarten up really quick. Ive had acouple throw a excort all the way in for me...I like you guys Prime, you have just as interesting stories as we do and you'll come help us out when needed. In Florida medics can't carry firearms, so its nice to have friends in blue. If I can return a favor with a little white lie, its the least I can do.
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Permalink Reply by PRIME_Ω_PREDATOR on
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Remember back on Valentines Day the Tavares bank robbery? Older dude carrying a shotgun hidden in a bouquet of flowers? I'll tell you about him someday in IM.
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Permalink Reply by James McDonald on
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awesome, I can't wait to hear that story.
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Permalink Reply by the jack o' lantern on -
it takes me a while to load up, but the bug out period I have of a month set aside, it will be hard but better than being dead, being dead doesn't help the situation very much.
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Permalink Reply by Andre Lapensee on -
I agree with Prime when it comes to my job alerting me ahead of time. The military would be the first to know if something that big was happening and if not my battalion, JTF2 or maybe CSOR would mobilize immediately to do all they can on top of the provincial police and RCMP doing their parts as well. When it comes down to it, I know I'd be ready in a very small time frame. It's in my nature I guess, get my fiancee packed up, have her go up North to my dad's who is retired military and just keep going until I can catch up. I worry more about my families safety than my own and I know they're in good hands with my dad.
Even though I'd be ready to split in the blink of an eye, I have a job to do so I'd be unable to leave. Last thing I'd want is for, in a scenario not looked at often, the outbreak gets shut down really fast and all returns to normal quick, and I've gone AWOL. Not good for my career or my future. Military prison is a bitch here in Canada.
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Permalink Reply by James McDonald on
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its going to be military then ems professionals who know whats coming. mainly because we're going to be on the front line of the shit coming down the pipe in country. Im exmilitary and I believe my connection to current military will give me a heads up. I saved a bunch of people in Afganistan who will give me a heads up first and foremost before alot of the public know it.
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Permalink Reply by Andre Lapensee on
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All those ties and such will go a long way, but like I said, I know here anyway, Special Forces would be the first in to do all they can. Here in Canada they're both first response to terror or pandemics. Haiti and Libya are prime examples. Shit hit the fan and JTF2 evacuated all Canadians from the embassies in less than 24 hours. They'd be the first ones to see any kind of zed outbreak. EMS and such would get wave after wave of injured and infected but I imagine they'd end up in a bad place when they start turning in the ambulances, emergency rooms etc.
I digress though, what I'm trying to say is here in Canada, if as previously stated things were under control quickly, the rest of us may not ever find out.
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Permalink Reply by James McDonald on
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Which is the exact reason I keep myself both in and out of the direct line. Im now working in the hospital as a surgical tech. I won't have to see the direct infected, but I'll be one of the first to know as far as hospital chain goes. Now the military chain....I may know before most of the rest of the military knows. I worked with a lot of rangers while in the army. I was put on a TST unit while in Iraq and most of the guys on my unit where either Ranger qualified or Marine Recon qualified. We deployed as back up for these units, so Im pretty sure if it happens in a area where the US Special forces will be the first deployed I'll have some knowledge with a quick second hand. I have this one SPC who calls me all the time for medic advice. I had some idea of what was going on acouple months ago for a very big aniversary....guess up for debate if you haven't already figured it out.
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Permalink Reply by PRIME_Ω_PREDATOR on
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Your first responders are going to be the intitial alerts. Cops responding to fights and assaults and EMS responding to bite cases and such. The military may get some alert in Canada but in the US we have laws against the military acting in a police roll. Tey are on their bases where they are filtered away from most civilian issues until they get outside the gates. National Guard in the States will be on the ground before the Regular Army but they will mostly be at their civilian jobs too when the SHTF. They'll have to be called out and respond to where ever their post is before they can think about jumping in their hummers and helping out. I beleive even in Canada the military will be a last and more then likely too late resort, just as in the US.
The .gov in any country will initially send out specialized teams to try to cover the outbreak. That will be FEMA or the CDC or both. As is the norm they will likely be woefully undermaned and underprepared. In that time the first responders will be dealing with the shit. We'll be responding to what we believe are domsestics and fights and such but in truth there will be the underlying cause. A drunk in a bar goes on a biting spree and all of a sudden there is a brawl. An unresponsive patient just sat up and bit a good samariton on the face. I can see how a normal Saturday night in the party district can turn a town in to Racoon City in a couple hours. The .gov isn't going to repsond to BumFukt, Pa or even NYC for some bar fights getting out of control.
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Permalink Reply by James McDonald on
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Very true. What I meant by military hearing about it is if it orginates overseas somewhere. If orginates on American soil EMS, and law enforcement will definitely be the first to know anything. I wouldnt be at all surprised if some of the first attacks don't come from the Medical Examiners office. If someone has to die before they comeback, its not far fetched to thing they could die and be brought to the ME's office before that happens.
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