This should be interesting....Melee weapons?
Ok I hear a lot of people on these forums talk about using melee weapons. I personally believe that anyone believing their going to go around bashing zombies with clubs, and machetes has been watching far to many zombie movies. The only thing like this I would carry would be a crowbar, and not so I can bash the brains out of the dead. Im going to carry it for use of entering a building, houses, or anything I need. A good crowbar, or a smaller pry bar is worth its weight in gold. It will easily pay for its weight in my pack.
So I want to hear everybodies ideas on what I consider a really bad tactical plan.
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Permalink Reply by Zombie Gabby on -
Idk but I agree and respect on what u think about melee weapons, also agree on the crowbar, can be very usefull for getting into a house or something
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Permalink Reply by James McDonald on -
I actually could write a list of reasons I don't think relying on a melee weapon are smart, but I thought I would wait and see what the masses had to say first.
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Permalink Reply by Laz on -
In life you play to your strengths, if all you have for defense is melee weapons and you actually know how to use them, then you use them. It makes more sense then trying to use firearms if you don't know how to, just the same as using a pushbike if you don't know how to use a motorbike etc.
The first people going down in an SHTF situation will most likely those trying to do/operate something which they aren't trained to do ie
-those mushrooms looks tasty!
-awesome a gun!
-awesome a katana!
-a ferrari!
-I wonder if I can hook this up to those electricity lines?
etc etc
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Permalink Reply by LazerScythe on -
The will power required to resist stealing stealing every Ferrari we see will be a lot, but common sense will make me take a Range Rover or that indestructible Kenyan Jeep off Top Gear. As far as guns go, most people who have seen an action movie or played an FPS game should be able to use a simple hand-gun or at least have the intelligence to remove any ammo from a gun they trying to learn how to use. Most people who find katanas will make the same mistake of slashing with it, it will get stuck in a zed and they will get eaten.
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Permalink Reply by Thomas "Fenrir" Platts on -
Well I have a few opinions on this. Guns are great, guns are useful for keep your desired target as a distance and neutralizing them safely. But I’m in the UK as several people on here are and guns are a problem here, no one ones them really, I know one person who owns a couple of shot guns as they like to go shooting, but that’s it. Most people here will have no experience at all with using a fire arm, I mean the only weapons I have ever fired are my Baker Rifle and my matchlock carbine, and I wouldn’t know how to go about firing an AK47 or an M4 or what ever.
So people from the UK on here say they would steal guns from an army base, but how really viable is that? Or taking them from the police armed response unit? It strikes me as some real luck to ever get hold of anything like that if you live here. Which brings me to my on to the point that, if you live in a country with no guns, then melee weapons is what your going to have to use to defend your selves, that’s our only real choice.
Now the use of melee weapons is something I think depends on the individual’s experience. People seem to think then and swing a katana around forever but you cant, there not weapons designed for the butcher work your going to be getting into, there designed for precision cutting that almost all people don’t have that experience or ability. Would I use one? No not at all because I don’t know how to use it effectively, I’d use my Dane Axe instead because I am very experienced with it. I think for most people, a blunt force weapon is perfectly adequate. Preferably something they have used or is easy to use, like a cricket bat, pick axe handle, sledge hammer etc.
Its not about how cool you look, its about being in the blood and guts of it and killing them before they kill you.
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Permalink Reply by Aden Morrisson on -
Your armour is a great idea.
But your weapons are ridiculous. As badass or cool as they are they aren't in a bit practical. Something like a pick axe handle or sport bat is so much easier to wield. Not to mention a clever cannot sever a moving objects head. you could not get the right leverage or angle and the blade would become blunt very easily.
Personally. I'd fill a teeball bat with cement to prevent denting and increase weight.
Feel free to criticise.
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Permalink Reply by Aden Morrisson on
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You don't have to show or explain to me different cleaver types. I'm currently studying to be a chef and I am well aware of all the sorts of knifes. What I'm saying is you cannot from a standing position get a side swing strong enough to decapitate a Zed. The idea that a cleaver follow is that the meat (in this case the neck of the zombie) rests on a hard flat surface so then the blade of the clever impacts there is a resisting force. With nothing but air on the other side of the neck you would at most get 1/4 way though the neck from your initial force and throw the zed's head to the side. It doesn't matter the size or weight of the blade without that opposing force to the impact the attack would dod nothing more then make you lose your weapon.
You also disregard the fact that my preferred weapon would be a metal teeball bat (much like a baseball bat but it is hollow) filled with cement. This prevents denting. A long handled anything is useless against large zeds or large groups of zeds. But realistically your screwed in a situation like that with just a melee weapon and your best option would be run like feck.
Also. From your combat description it'd have to assume your some sort of cleaver ninja?
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Permalink Reply by Suigeneris on -
I myself would still want as much distance as possible between myself and my target(s). Therefore I would choose a polearm. Nice long piece of hardwood like a closet rack. Multiple uses as far as striking, keeping a foe at distance or, pole vaulting fences and roofs. What was the name of the weapon used when Kirk and Spock went at it? A blade at one end and a large club at the other?<that
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Permalink Reply by James McDonald on
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Im really starting to feel sorry for people in the UK, their lack of firearms really disturbs me. I can understand your point for using what you feel comfortable with, that probably one of the main reasons Im not going to rely on a melee weapon. Ive spent the vast majority of my adult life learning how to use firearms for this purpose. In the military there are very little uses for clubs, swords, or spears in this century.
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Permalink Reply by Laz on
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If you actually need a gun/have a valid reason to own one, then you can have one ie farmers, shooting clubs (deer, pheasant, rabbits etc) or pest control for example, you can get them legally no problem at all. So in the countryside there are a lot of firearms.
In the cities you will struggle to find legal guns for above reasons, note the word legal though. But in a SHTF situation the cities will be the first things to go so it's a reasonably moot point.
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Permalink Reply by James McDonald on
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I honestly dont mean to make anyone mad with this, but thats why I feel bad for the English. For instance I own 2 AR 15's (one gas piston, one gas impingement), a SCAR-light, 6 shotguns, and 8 pistols. Now do I need any of these firearms??? No, I don't hunt on a regular basis, but I wanted them, so I bought them. I required no special license or anything of the sort to do so. I do believe in gun control, but from what Im hearing I wouldnt move to England if you paid me to do so.
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Permalink Reply by Aden Morrisson on
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As per Australian Law, I can not own a semi auto gun of any sort without very good reasoning. A weapon licence B allows rifles and shotguns with very low ammo capacity.
It's a big shit around to get a license.
Sort of worried for myself in a SFTF situation. Bloody laws.
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