What is your sidearm for Z-Day?
And besides nothing says get the fuck away from me like a mouth full of buckshot
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Permalink Reply by Patrick Morrow on -
My XD-45 will do well enough. I like the stopping power of the .45 and the 13 round cap
is a plus.
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Permalink Reply by PRIME_Ω_PREDATOR on -
Most know I prefer a larger caliber gun. How would you like to have one gun and multiple calibers. Check it out.
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Permalink Reply by Shoot'em in the Head (Z1122) on -
Been eyeballing this one from the first moment I heard about it.
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Permalink Reply by James McDonald on -
I have been looing at this for awhile myself. I like the idea of having one pistol for my bugout system that can fire mulitple calibers depending on what type of ammo I require, or what type of ammo Im able to find. It thus far seems to be a really nice gun. Ive looked into doing this for my Sig P226 before this gun came out, and because of the laws and the way the parts are made on that gun, its basically like buying a different gun and nove very economical. This seems to be a great solution. Im just waiting to get my hands on one to fire first.
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Permalink Reply by Justin Hensley on -
My Glock 17 with the 3 mags that come with it. And if I am as good a shot as I want to be a .22 would do fine. Dont need a high caliber if you can shoot them in the soft spots. ie eyes nose mouth. Going for the medulla oblongata to stop them where they stand.
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Permalink Reply by ubduomk on -
Kel Tec PLR-16 for me. rifle and pistol combined together in harmony. Pistol package, rifle caliber, and unlike the FNH-Five Seven, ammo is easy to find. Accepts AR15/M16 type magazines, .223 Remington Caliber, semiautomatic, 9.2 inch barrel, gas operated, only 3.2 pounds.
good for short range devastation or long range rifle-like accuracy.
just look at this beauty http://www.kel-tec-cnc.com/plr16.htm
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Permalink Reply by Wendigo on
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For me the choice is simple, my Kimber classic 45 I have fired close to five thousand rounds out of her and I know what she can do. I do all my own reloading so cost is cheap and stockpiling has been easy.
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Permalink Reply by brian overton on
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dont use buck, survivors could get hut
its a good idea to use bird, higher chance to hit and it sticks in walls
my firearm of choice is my .22 weather its ratshot or solid slug, ill have fun
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Permalink Reply by Death Dealer on -
bird has deplorably low penetration and would most likely not penetrate the skull, turkey would be better if you didn't want to use buck (yes I know a turkey is a bird), However with the proper choke buck shot should be ready for nearly every situation a shotgun could be used for.
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Permalink Reply by Death Dealer on
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Berreta m9a1 it is very accurate and reliable with OEM magazines, plus the 9mm is light and prevalent and has enough power to get the job done for zombies and raiders alike plus with only 3 mags you have 45rds at your disposal.
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Permalink Reply by F Clef Jeff on -
I like the accuracy, capacity, and ammo compatibility of a 9mm, but I don't go below .45 with a self defense weapon. A few years back, a cop in our town shot a guy at almost arm's reach with his Beretta 92 three times and the guy was still standing.
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Permalink Reply by PRIME_Ω_PREDATOR on
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I can't say I don't go below 45acp. It is my preferred round for a sidearm. I've carried and shot 9mm (9x19mm, 9mm parabellum), 40S&W, 45acp and 380acp in sidearms and the first two in full auto MP5 for work. I've shot all the rounds I've listed and so many others. As a few of you know I even have an AR15 pistol in 5.56 NATO. Each of the rounds mentioned have their good points. The 9mm Parabellum is by far the most used military round on Earth. Even more so then the 45acp. When the US Military switched from the 1911 to the Beretta they saw to that. The conflicts between then and now have made sure of it. (Links from Wikipedia, I don't n ormally use WIKI as a reference but the numbers matched up with 'Feet Per Second' Velocity numbers that I am aware of)
Depending on the brand of 9mm you're looking at a velocity of 990 to 1350 FPS, 45acp is at 845 to 1150 FPS, the 380acp is in between 990 and 1000 FPS and the 40S&W shows between 950 and 1350 FPS. I am unaware if these numbers include +P loads or not. I would guess they do not.
When you look at the rounds in question and which to carry you have got to think of many things; weight of bullets, mag capacity, availability of ammo and performance. ANY ONE OF THESE ROUNDS WILL KILL. That being said in my 22 year career as a police officer I've seen people walk away from being shot in the head from each of these rounds. On each occasion old, crappy ammo and glancing blows were the reasons. On each occasion except the 45acp the person being shot fell to the ground. With the case of the 45acp the person shot was knocked to the ground and that was a lucy shot from a thug at over 50 yards. There is a great difference between falling to the ground and being knocked to the ground. It has a lot to do with the perception of the person being shot. A lot of the average person's perception on being shot comes from Hollywood and video games. In Hollywood when someone gets shot in the head they tend to die. When people in movies get shot they tend to die. This is not so in real life. In real life we are talking about less then a half ounce of lead and steel hitting a target of an average of 165 lbs +/- (human male). Many times that target is moving toward the shooter. Yes the 1/2 ounce of lead and steel can do extreme damage depending on the type round it is but even at 1350 feet per second a 1/2 ounce slug striking soft tissue moving i... tends to strike soft flesh and continues to travel in a straight line until it hits something solid or loses momentum because of the mass of the target. At times the solid obect is the wall behind the target. (We all know that mass differs between targets). Glancing blows are a whole different story that I'm not about to try to explain. (I don't think my laptop is fast enough and I know I'm not ;-D). The mass of the slug isteslf makes a major difference too. The 40S&W is near the mass of the 45acp and has the velocity and performance numbers of the 9mm. it hasn't been proven near as much as the big and little brother but math doesn't lie. The numbers were enough to get many police departments to switch from the 9mm and the 45acp to the 40S&W from the 1980s to today. Many departments had issues with with smaller officers (male and female) being intimidated by the 45acp. The bosses at the department wanted a bigger round like a 45acp. The 10mm tended to be a bit hotter then the 45acp and even more intimidating. The 40S&W was a round they were willing to go with . Many didn't trust the 9mm for whatever their reasons.
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