First, some rules. 

 

1. This is a serious topic. This discussion is about matters of life and death for you and those around you. Stay focused. 

 

2. If you're going to contribute, you better have had actual field experience with whatever you're bringing to the table. I don't want to hear about how badass a gun is because you use it when you play Call of Duty or because you once fired your buddy's AR. 

 

3. Keep it legal. DO NOT talk about converting any semi-automatic in to a full-auto. This is illegal no matter where you live.

 

4. Feel free to ask questions. The only stupid question is the one not asked. 

 

 

Having said that......

 

 

You're selection of a firearm may be a matter of life and death. Your very existence may very well depend on the firearm you choose. Hopefully this discussion will be a guide to help you make the right choice. 

 

-Rifles (Long)-

The first thing I would look at is a military-grade semi-automatic rifle. Remember, when dealing with the zombie threat, you're trying to make head shots. Engagements will generally occur within 100 yards. At this range, most military rifles made in the last half century will do. Bolt-action require the user to manually eject and reload after each shot. This problem is eliminated with semi-autos.  

 

Second thing to consider is time it takes to reload and the amount of ammunition that can be practically carried.  Military rifles generally have a detachable magazine that can be changed in a matter of seconds with practice and can usually between 20 and 30 rounds. A person in moderately good shape can comfortably carry 10 of these magazines giving them immediate access to 200-300 rounds.   

 

Because of these two reasons, I am not including shotguns. Shotguns are very limited in their range and ammunition capacity. Ever #00 buckshot fired at 100 yards does next to nothing to the target because the spread is so wide. Also, most shotguns use a fixed tube magazine under the barrel, limiting their capacity to 8 or 9 rounds and have to be reloaded with one shell at a time. Models like the Saiga-12 shotguns with their detachable are limited to a dozen rounds or so and with a magazine that weighs more than and AR magazine loaded with 30 rounds. 

 

Civilian semi-automatic rifles made to military specifications are built to take the abuse of the battlefield. There is no such thing as a perfect weapon. They are machines, pure and simple and will malfunction at the more inappropriate time. Training and familiarity with these and any weapon is critical in their application. Malfunction drills should be practiced over and over again until reacting to a malfunction comes as naturally to the shooter as sighting in and squeezing the trigger.

 

Recommended Models:

AR platform

AK

Galil

FAL

M1A

G3/CETME

HK91/93

SKS

M1 Carbine

M1 Garand

 

-Sidearms (Short)-

Handguns should never be considered for your primary firearm; there's a reason they're called sidearms. By nature, they are underpowered and should only be used because your rifle cannot be used for one reason or the other. Their range is limited due to the power of the ammunition.

I'm not going to go into detail about makes and models due to the fact that they should be considered secondary firearms. The two biggest factors to consider is the reliability of the weapon and the caliber.

Stick to common calibers. If you're sidearm is chambered in 9mm, .40 S&W, or .45 ACP for autos or .38 or .357 mag for revolvers, you'll be set. These are the most common calibers in America. All of those listed have been staples in the law enforcement community and/or the military at one point or another. It is plentiful and easy to find.

As far as makes go, Glocks are in my opinion the easiest sidearm for anyone to learn how to use. They are reliable and damn near indestructible. Other reputable manufactures include, but are not limited to Springfield, Colt, Smith & Wesson, Ruger, Taurus, Beretta, and Browning.

 

Avoid Hi-Points like the plague!

 

-Training- 

Shooting is an art. After decades of movies and TV, many believe that all a person has to do is point a gun in the general direction of the target and the bullet will magically hit what you want it to. Nothing could be farther from the truth. The importance of practice cannot be stressed enough.

This does not mean going to the range every day and shooting a bunch of ammo. Dry practice in your home for 10-15 is all you need.

Start by making sure your ammo is in another room and that your weapon is clear.

Place a target on a wall, shelf or table.

For rifles, practice your presentation from the alert (muzzle down) to the Ready (sighted in on target)

In the case of sidearms, practice presentation from the holster to the ready.

Don't worry about squeezing the trigger. Instead, concentrate on lining up the sights and focusing on the front sight of the weapon.

Repeat this process over and over until it becomes second-nature. Remember, and amateur practices until he gets it right, a professional practices until he can't get it wrong.

 

-Magazines-

There's no such thing as having too many. If you're long and/or short uses them, get more. Most can be had for between $10-20. Try to stick to factory mags or else ones made by a reputable third party manufacturer of high quality. 

 

-Sights/Scopes-

Unless you're shooting beyond a couple hundred yards, you don't need a 10-power scope. Simple red dots will suffice for the type of shooting we're talking about here and allow for faster target acquisition than traditional iron sights. 

 

For sidearms, I would recommend investing in a set of Trijicon sights for target acquisition in low-light.

 

That's all I've got for now. Feel free to ask any questions.

 

Cheers. 

 

 

 

 

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It's hard to argue with  logic like that I like it .

great job

Well, looks like this and my gear post got deleted from GD. Guess it was inappropriate for there, but things about drug-use are okay.
That's kinda funny wrong but funny .
I hear shotguns with detachable magazines can jam because the plastic shotgun shells stacked on top on another for a while will warp and won't fit in the chamber. Another thing is hollow-point bullets. Hollow-points were banned from warfare by some convention, I can't remember which one, because they were condsidered to cause so much damage that it would result in a soldiers inevitable death. I believe some states that hollow-point bullets are required by law to be used for hunting to garuantee you'll kill whatever your shooting. I figure since we want to kill the zeds if possible then we should use hollow-point bullets.
If your talking about Saiga shotguns, I heard that they are pretty reliable and that more and more people are starting to use them for home defense. It's my first time hearing about this warping thing, I don't know if thats really a issue or just a rumor. By the way way hollow points are getting pretty expensive. If you plan on stocking up on ammunition you would be better off just getting FMJ. A FMJ is going to do pretty much the thing a HP would do.
I only bring it up, because in the z-poc your gonna want to save your ammo, but your gonna want to keep your gun loaded. This may cause the plastic casings to warp since they probably be sitting in the mags for a while. As for the hollow-points, if you have to you could drill the tips yourself.
You could do that with the HP but you have to use the right drill bits for certain ammunition. Not to mention you have got to have some knowledge on what your doing otherwise your just going to end up ruining your bullets.
I heard a story where soldiers back in the 1800's would cut the tips off their bullets hoping that it would hit the target harder and do more damage. It had achieved the desired effect, but not because the bullet was flat. It was because when they cut the tip off of their bullets, it exposed the lead core of the round cause the bullet to expand when it hit the target. I'm guessing this was all done in the field so I don't think it would be to hard to do with out extensive knowledge.

Yeah but that was back in the 1800's. Guns and ammunition have certainly changed from from that time and what might have worked back then might not work now.

You also got to be careful cause not all guns shoot HP well. I know for a fact that my Wasr 10/63 AK-47 doesn't shoot HP well. They tend to jam more, same thing with my AR she tends to like Federal and PMC instead of of Remington or Tula. She probaly jam like a b@$ch if I ran HP through her.
I just figured that if you can't get a hold of FMJ, then you could make hollow points yourself. They also make plastic tips for hollow points so they have the same ballistics as a solid bullet.

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