The Weapons Black List

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Permalink Reply by UNYEILDING on January 31, 2009 at 8:58pm

ya try getting up to the zeds first hen see what you have to say. please keep to weapon black listing not pros and cons

Permalink Reply by Zombeh TK on January 31, 2009 at 10:31pm

I would reccomend a rifle because it is deadly up close and at a distance. A Winchester or remington would be prefferable. No need for too high caliber, zombie flesh is very soft. A crowbar would be good too. Light, hard and you can easily bury it in a zombies head. Something sharp would be good too.

Permalink Reply by Patriot on February 1, 2009 at 8:14pm

no thats where your partially wrong zombeh.not all zombie flesh is soft.only a zombie that is starting to go through the upper stages of decomposition then the flesh becomes soft and slimey.a winchester would be good but not for the people closet to the zombies.people with winchesters should stay behind the main group of people taking out long range zombies while other people with shotguns and other typs of rifles kill zombies closet to them.also a blunt weapon should always be carried as a backup to when your sidearm runs our of ammo assuming you have a sidearm.good blunt and bladed weapons are:machetes,one handed hatchest,crowbars, and short swords.Thats all that comes to mind in a situation where your in the heat of battle.A fireaxe or shovel would not be good in the middle of a large battle.The weapons i listed above would be the best weaposn you could chose as your blunt or bladed weapons in a battle.But for home defense sharpened broom sticks,clubs,shovels,bats,pipes,fireaxes and other large weapons that can be used in narrow hallways would make great home defense wepaons

Permalink Reply by UNYEILDING on February 15, 2009 at 6:18pm

ok seriously there are other forums for weapons you should use. this forum is for weapons that shoul not be used

Permalink Reply by Matt Marcy on March 16, 2009 at 4:29am

ANYTHING THAT BURNS MOLTOFS FLAME TROUGHERS THAT STUFF IS A WAST OF TIME AND WILL JUST FUCK UP YOUR TOWN THE BODY BURNS KINDA LIKE A CANDLE AND ZOMBIES DONT FEEL PAIN SO NOT GOING TO STOP THEM

Permalink Reply by Hellfighter on July 9, 2009 at 8:48pm

i agree with most of what you said and id like to see bolt action rifles added cause unless your extremly practiced with it but the ak and the m16 id like taken off this list if you were not in the army or military i would suggest getting on google looking up the tms for them and go out shooting now learn to use them effectivlly and efficiently and explosives can be effective in inclosed spaces like a small room or hall way you don't have to hit em in the head if you know how to do it but fire definatly out unless you managed to corner one in a hole or something and were feeling saddistic. on a side for all you anarchists im starting our own thread for tips and tricks.

Permalink Reply by Lima Bravo on February 10, 2010 at 1:30am

Simply put any weapon is ineffective in the wrong hands. the only truly useless weapons that ive heard people talk about are Flame producing weapons, because flaming zombies=bad. Also, airpowered pellet rifles, seriously? wtf? can you shoot a living person in the face with one and kill them with it? and i dont mean a pointblank luck shot right into their ear canal and into the brain. they call that kindof stuff "freak accidents" for a reason. So far as explosives go...im going to have to disagree. i believe in the right hands, and made to the right specifications you can destroy anything with a big enough explosion. now dont get me wrong, im aware that a stomach full of shrapnel wouldnt stop a Zulu. However, an anti personnel mine could most definitely blow a Zulu to nothing but flakes in your hair and mess on your shoes. i know this is supposed to be a black list, but i couldnt help but defend ordinances, that what i like to call my bread and butter.

Permalink Reply by Ron Salter on February 14, 2010 at 10:50pm

Firearms.
I'd black list anything in an un-common caliber.
Rifle keepers would be .22 , .223, 308, 30-30 and 30.06 Anyone who doubts the .22 please go stand 50yds away and I'll shoot you in the head and you tell me if it doesn't work. No takers?
Handgun black list. Any revolver over 357. Most people will not be able to hit with due to recoil. In pistols black list those goddam 50cal Desert Eagles.
Keepers would be .22,32,38/357. 9mm, .40S&W, the 45 is borderline for most people for ease of handling but I'll let it in because of the huge amounts of ammo in the US for it. Again, mouse guns are fine for zeds, human skulls are not that hard to penetrate and only head shots count.
Shotguns. Only 12G need apply. Nothing wrong with double barrels,simple to use, few moving parts to wear, nothing to jam. Range is fine for zeds, if they are out of range they are of no threat, why waste ammo?
Blades.
I'm only talking here as weapons, everyone should always have a knife for other uses.Buy the best you can afford, what's your life worth? Cheap blades don't hold an edge well and if not heated treated correctly will snap.
Black list any sword made of stainless steel, these are for hanging on the wall, not fighting.They WILL break.
Black list any blade under 16 inches, you want reach, not to get up close and personal. Also serrated blades, they get stuck too easily.
Black list full size axes, you get puffed chopping wood, how you going to swing that thing in battle? Small axe head on a longer handle....borderline.
Black list crowbars : big ones are too heavy to swing for any length of time, also heavy to carry. Smaller ones get you too close. A baseball or cricket bat is a better/lighter alternative.

Don't ignore garden tools, a good many peasant revolutions were won with garden tools, in fact many Chinese martial arts weapons began life as farm tools. Shovels, spades,scythes, cane knives, all good makeshift weapons if your caught off guard.

Permalink Reply by Shadow Man on February 27, 2010 at 6:00am

Weapons blacklist...are you serious? Ok...the mini-gun is totally out because you probably couldn't find one, you certainly couldn't feed it and you sure as hell couldn't carry it.

Shotguns: Hard to beat the most Keep It Simple Stupid weapon out there. Ammunition is EVERYWHERE. It is undeniably effective inside fifty yards. Yes you can shoot beyond that but you had better pattern your shot and test your rifle with slugs - they don't travel quite as straight as you might think. BTW Stick with the pumps. Double barrels take far too long to reload and autos can be very picky on what they eat and don't tolerate dirt much. Stick with the tried and trued pump action shotgun. They simply work.

Blacklist AR's are you serious? There is plenty of ammunition to feed these critters all over the place. Especially considering that every police department, National Guard, Reserve Center, sporting goods store carries ammo for it, not to mention every military unit from ours here in the U.S. to every NATO country overseas uses the standard 5.56 round. Simple to use, accurate well out to 600 meters. More accessories than a Barbee doll, light weight and EFFECTIVE.

And while we're on the subject of Semi-auto's - forget messing with Full Automatic platforms. That is for the movies and dumb TV shows. A total waste of ammunition. The goal is one shot = ONE ZED, dead in the head. That's called fire control. Spray and pray is just that. Totally ineffective, a total waste of ammunition and will get you dead really quick. Slap an optic on your AR like an Aimpoint or EOTECH....put the red dot on the Zed's head and send one dispatching round down range. Thirty pulls of the trigger should equal thirty dead Zeds. With practice comes perfection.

You can also mount an optic on the AK platform, be it the AK-47 or the AK-74. It is the most robust and reliable platform in the world...like it or not. It comes with 30 and 40 round stick magazines and...for the so inclined, a 90 round drum magazine. Not as accurate as the AR or able to punch out there as far but it is 10 times more reliable. You pull the trigger and it goes bang. You don't clean it...it goes bang. It gets wet, dirty, muddy....you pull the trigger it goes bang - so how is that a bad thing. The most common cause of a FTF (Fail To Fire) for an AK47 is an empty magazine. While ammo abundance is not as common or great as the AR's round, there is still a lot of it out there, it was relatively cheap up until recently. You might have to scrounge a bit more for it but don't forget that it hits much harder at closer ranges than the AR.

SMG's Submachine guns to have their place...again not as a spray and pray. They may need optics or lasers to help their short barrels on target but their light weight, small size and adequate punch at short to medium distances will more than do the job. Just quit holding down the trigger and using it as a room broom.

One of the last rounds I'd consider dumping is the lowly .22 long rifle. Heck the Mob has been using them for decades. They will punch through a Zed's head and rattle around inside there for a while turning whatever is left in there into pudding. The round is light. You can easily carry THOUSANDS OF THEM. Their platforms have virtually no recoil and would therefore be easily usable for small women and children. Hey...the goal is to keep as many guns on line for as long as possible. The more the merrier!!

I agree that the spiked baseball bat is probably a bad idea. First off I'm not sure just how quick and undead would succumb to a skull bashing and getting it stuck in one head while others were trying to bite chunks out of you would not be a good scenario.

Actually if you know how to wield a real Katana or Broadsword it is very unlikely that your sword is going to get caught in a Zed's skull. More than likely you will be splitting skull parts all over the room. Again...the thing is that it does require actual training and practice to be effective with a blade, but I'm sure there will be plenty of undead volunteers to practice on. But I'd get a head start on the practice just to be sure. Oh and as stated above..those stainless steel "show blades" are just that...for show only. They are too brittle and will snap off and be just as dangerous to you as to anything you're using it on. HIGH CARBON STEEL properly tempered blades only.

I'd like to see what an actual "Lobo" from WWZ is supposed to look like. It's described as something between a shovel and a double bit axe. I've got an old straight blade shovel that I might just take a grinder to and see what I can come up with. It is supposed to whack like and axe or a halberd and also allows for a frontal decapitating strike. Hmmmmmm interesting.

Frankly anything that can get your hands on that works is a good thing. A machete, a Kukuri, a bayonet ducked taped to a stick, whatever works. Personally the further away I can dispatch a Zed the better I would like it. Up close and personal is just asking to get bit.

Another platform that would be worthy of consideration is the FN 5.7 the only problem is that there is not a huge abundance of ammo for this system. But the pistol carries 20-30 rounds depending upon the magazine used and the rifle, which is about the size of an AR Carbine carries 50 rounds in a top loading stick magazine. That's a lot of firepower in two very small packages. Again...remember we're going for the head shot - it's the only way to be sure.

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